Richard Dawkins --"The Origin of Life in the Universe" (Today's Most Popular)
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February 16, 2013

Richard Dawkins --"The Origin of Life in the Universe" (Today's Most Popular)

 

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"The universe could so easily have remained lifeless and simple -just physics and chemistry, just the scattered dust of the cosmic explosion that gave birth to time and space. The fact that it did not -the fact that life evolved out of literally nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved literally out of nothing -is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice. And even that is not the end of the matter. Not only did evolution happen: it eventually led to beings capable of comprehending the process by which they comprehend it."

Richard Dawkins -famed Oxford evolutionary biologist reflecting on the sheer wonder of the emergence of life on Earth and the evolutionary process in his classic The Ancestor's Tale.

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"Evolved", "gave birth", "out of nothing"? Maybe all this came out of "something". That something that could be called "god". But you are afraid of that concept. You simply deny the existence of a "creator entity" for all this universe... and you mix up nonsenses such as Noah's ark, or man's ribs or any other obsolete religion matters. Try to think in positive. There is no old lord who punishes, no old being who gets angry. It's just an entity whence all this evolved, and you can't understand it.

Boring, Robert Moron, boring.

Theology,(mythology), in its many guises, from a turtle carrying the heavens on its back, to Buddah, to Jesus, ad infinitum, is always looked upon ascance by people who are genuinely curious. No we don't "know" the origins of the universe, but we are looking, not reading scrolls and disparaging other's quests for knowledge.

"-is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice."

For Dr. Dawkins to so eloquently infer the existence of something beyond our ken, while on the surface denying the same, is giving me a headache!

Modern science completely left out concept of multidisciplinary approach.
Serious questions like this, require participation of philosophers, historians, medical experts and more than anything, just "big thinkers", put it simply, smartest people, and yes- religious experts, who appreciate to be asked.
Remember Old Greeks,Aristotle, Socrates; Leonardo's genius in time of great
prosperity; they were not specialist in any of disciplines.
Today, even in internet era, there is no even publication or social event
where people from different fields can exchange ideas !
There is some genius somewhere, sitting in the shadows, without specific diploma, waiting to be heard.

"Men believe what they cannot prove" - Kwai Chang Caine

Atheism is a belief, a conviction, not provable. "Does God exist? If He does not exist, then who is it that Atheists believe they deny? Science, in the language of Quantum Theory, says God does exist because "All things are possible" although, admittedly, not all things are probable. Mr. Dawkins is, of course, an absolutely brilliant man in this Realm of Relativity in which we all find ourselves and, as such, he pitches a very cogent, persuasive appeal for his opinions to those whom he considers espouse the belief that they are the Elite among us. His English accent, couched in pomposity and arrogance, doesn't hurt the presentation either. It's perfectly natural for parts to seek out their analogs within the structure of the Whole; the Law of Homogeneity at work, birds of a feather wanting to flock together. So the Draft call to enlist in the Army of Militant Atheism by Mr. Dawkins is quite understandable. My concern is that we are all here, on a Great Round Ball, smack dab in the middle of Zero and Infinity, not knowing who we are, where we came from, why we are here, and where we are going from here, if anywhere. While it is true that in our Realm of Relative Existence, some are relatively more intelligent than others; on the Level Playing Field in which we find ourselves, we are all absolutely as equally ignorant in our ability to come up with answers to the Eternal Questions. I have often wondered what would happen if, for one reason or another, the masses became convinced that there is no God. Would the poor and hungry turn upon the rich and satisfied? In the "Bhagavad Gita," the Song of God, Dharma asks of Yudisthira, "Of all the world's wonders, which is the most wonderful?" And Yudisthira replies: "That no man, though he sees others dying all about him, believes that he, himself, will not die." So unless Mr. Dawkins is an immortal, the time will come for him to stand before the Door that leads into the Great Unknown. He may very well find himself rapidly evolving from Militant Atheist, to Agnostic, to Believer, to Repentant Metanoid. And, of course, he will be welcomed with open arms.

One possibility often out of grasp of minds is that maybe... maybe...life is an infinite process. A civilization creates one, an another, multiple terraforma offsprings that, themselves, do the same, an an infinite exponential propagation. This suppose an universe without beginning and without an end. In this universe, there is no god and there is no origin of life... There are only intelligent beings trying to understand infinity while feeling it gave them the sensation that there is something big out there... (and in there). It is when they try to interpret their feelings about it that they start their misinterpretation... Just a thought!

Dawkins is not short of cash but short of breath and full of redundancy without admitting or writing THAT HE and everyone else knows that WE ALL ARE STILL too stupid to decipher how we came about, etc., etc.,

Interesting, Robert Moran, interesting

Download "The Origin of the Universe - Case Closed". It also has a section on the evolution of life.

@Robert Moran, with that attitude I might as well forget about wanting to understand anything scientifically and simply say it all has its source in an “entity” I can’t understand. Where would the science I suspect you come here to read about be with that sort of attitude? Or do you simply hold that that which you cannot yet find an empirical basis for should be said to have its source in this “entity”? Can’t explain a Coke bottle from the sky…damn, the Gods must be crazy.

@Allan J, Dawkins is not inferring the existence of a deity beyond our ken, but rather stating that an attempt to describe the full complexity of what we can observe, God obviously excluded, would be lacking.

@Steve Savage, the inference that to deny God there must be a God is just plain silly. A rational atheist won’t deny God, but rather say that if you can’t find an empirical basis towards the proof of Gods existence then there are no grounds for debating Gods existence. The denial is not that God doesn’t exist, but that there exists no grounds to debate Gods existence.

"Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Proof", Carl Sagan
The advancement of knowledge, and the retreat of religious dogma is inevitable, except to those who give up on curiosity and merely reiterate, "The old man in the sky did it".

Firstly, I would like to say that I agree with Robert Moran to a certain extent, that the formation of life was a highly improbable and miraculous event, and while theories postulating the existence of multiple universes clearly solve this paradox, this in itself does not exclude the existence of God. To begin with, while there is little evidence of the involvement of a deity in our daily lives, this is hardly surprising given that human civilization and the planet it inhabits form but a miniscule speck in the grandeur of the infinite continuum. Therefore, while there is no absolutely conclusive evidence of divine involvement in our daily lives, this is hardly surprising given that an intelligence many orders of magnitude beyond our own would likely be as indifferent to the fate of the human race as the latter is to a microbe. Second, the main religious systems dominant in the world today trace their origins back thousands of years when cosmology as a field was virtually nonexistent, and the notion of alien civilizations was considered absurd. As a result, these systems all ascribe a tremendously high degree of anthropomorphism to their deities, in their psychological demeanour if not their physical representation, which in the context of the Copernican revolution and the discovery of billions of galaxies now obviously presents itself as a vast oversimplification. Nevertheless, this does not rule out the presence of a Being too complicated to understand or perceive, and the philosophy of Platonism offers a possible vehicle to explain the nature of God. After all, if physics is subservient to mathematics on a fundamental level, this implies that all objects can be described through mathematical equations, including conscious processes in the human brain. If this is so, how can we rule out that the equations governing the Universe in the moment of creation were not the manifestation of a Conscious Being, unrecognizable due to its disembodied state? We simply cannot, and therein lies the unfeasibility of ever providing a question to this fundamental problem.

Mr. Dawkins,
Let me throw you a lifeline: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/jesus/greenleaf.html
I hope you catch it and obtain deliverance...Be blessed...Dr. Southwell

Removed because it's spam. The editor.

Hahahaha, because quoting Kwai Chang Caine really lends your argument credibility...

Dr. Southwell

Aside from being extremely long winded, this piece doesn't prove shit!

You sir, would be better off taking a message from the post just before yours!

Message to Jay Arsenijevic

In the word of Elvis....... "Thank you very much!"

life does not depend on the belief on man to exist. what i don't understand is how a deep thinker like Richard Dawkins can use his brain, with some understanding of what that is, and still think that the whole universe is somehow absent thought. you are all atomic beings put together from the simplest little pieces of matter and a whole lot of space. yet you are self aware. at some level, is that so much different than the universe.

what I like most about Dawkins, especially as witnessed here, is how his constant questioning of Religion and Cultural belief systems pisses so many people off. He must be doing something right.

When it comes to religion itself I consider Dawkins severely misguided and mistaken, but his work on Memics is brilliant!

And again, unless they changed the 25 post viewable limit, or delete GODs laughter, BAM!! CASE CLOSED!! (or delete this one i guess)

what I like most about Dawkins, especially as witnessed here, is how his constant questioning of Religion and Cultural belief systems pisses so many people off. He must be doing something right.


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